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    | [17:15:44] | 
    thisgeek[m]: | 
    Somewhat radical notion from my ex-boss: never fire anybody. | 
    
    | [17:15:50] | 
    thisgeek[m]: | 
    Offer demotion or transition. | 
    
    | [17:16:23] | 
    pilgrimish: | 
    joins | 
    
    | [17:16:25] | 
    pilgrimish_: | 
    joins | 
    
    | [17:19:40] | 
    nwsokoloff[m]: | 
    hmmm thats an interesting notion thisgeek | 
    
    | [17:20:31] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    "ex-boss"... did you get fired? | 
    
    | [17:20:37] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    or demoted? | 
    
    | [17:21:39] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    firing is expensive. demotion is so demoralizing, i think many people would simply quit. wonder how that all squares with labor laws. | 
    
    | [17:25:16] | 
    thisgeek[m]: | 
    Ex-boss in two senses: I was switched to a different boss last year, and his 2-weeks notice ends this week. | 
    
    | [17:25:53] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    is this jonny? | 
    
    | [17:26:21] | 
    thisgeek[m]: | 
    You don’t demote as a boss. You offer demotion, and sincerely. Of course economic pressures will incentivize people not to take the offer. | 
    
    | [17:26:21] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    or have you not worked for him for longer than two years? | 
    
    | [17:26:25] | 
    thisgeek[m]: | 
    kenbolton Not Jon. | 
    
    | [17:27:02] | 
    thisgeek[m]: | 
    I didn’t think of labor laws. | 
    
    | [17:27:12] | 
    thisgeek[m]: | 
    And of course there must be exclusions. | 
    
    | [17:27:33] | 
    thisgeek[m]: | 
    Come in and smash all the desks with the hammer? Yeah we’ll take your keycard thanks. | 
    
    | [17:27:55] | 
    thisgeek[m]: | 
    Security will escort you out. Some things are beyond the pale. | 
    
    | [17:28:05] | 
    thisgeek[m]: | 
    This guys just talking about performance issues. | 
    
    | [17:28:08] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    The hammer. | 
    
    | [17:28:25] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    yeah, makes sense. | 
    
    | [17:28:53] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    of course, the self-critical worker may always believe they should be demoted. | 
    
    | [17:29:29] | 
    thisgeek[m]: | 
    And if someone’s already at the bottom, I don’t know how that works. | 
    
    | [17:30:04] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    i should be demoted as a paddle-sports guide. | 
    
    | [17:30:25] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    anybody getting out tonight to bank sq? | 
    
    | [18:03:40] | 
    pilgrimish: | 
    leaves | 
    
    | [18:03:40] | 
    pilgrimish_: | 
    leaves | 
    
    | [18:07:29] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    ...big silence... | 
    
    | [18:13:55] | 
    orinxsupport[m]: | 
    yo! I'm on station | 
    
    | [18:14:51] | 
    kenbolton[m]: | 
    orinxsupport: does that mean you took hallucinogens? | 
    
    | [18:15:17] | 
    orinxsupport[m]: | 
    nah! | 
    
    | [18:16:08] | 
    orinxsupport[m]: | 
    I am still learning about how to use Riot | 
    
    | [18:16:21] | 
    orinxsupport[m]: | 
    but at the moment I'm wrangling with react |