June 26, 2018

[17:15:44] thisgeek[m]: Somewhat radical notion from my ex-boss: never fire anybody.
[17:15:50] thisgeek[m]: Offer demotion or transition.
[17:16:23] pilgrimish: joins
[17:16:25] pilgrimish_: joins
[17:19:40] nwsokoloff[m]: hmmm thats an interesting notion thisgeek
[17:20:31] kenbolton[m]: "ex-boss"... did you get fired?
[17:20:37] kenbolton[m]: or demoted?
[17:21:39] kenbolton[m]: firing is expensive. demotion is so demoralizing, i think many people would simply quit. wonder how that all squares with labor laws.
[17:25:16] thisgeek[m]: Ex-boss in two senses: I was switched to a different boss last year, and his 2-weeks notice ends this week.
[17:25:53] kenbolton[m]: is this jonny?
[17:26:21] thisgeek[m]: You don’t demote as a boss. You offer demotion, and sincerely. Of course economic pressures will incentivize people not to take the offer.
[17:26:21] kenbolton[m]: or have you not worked for him for longer than two years?
[17:26:25] thisgeek[m]: kenbolton Not Jon.
[17:27:02] thisgeek[m]: I didn’t think of labor laws.
[17:27:12] thisgeek[m]: And of course there must be exclusions.
[17:27:33] thisgeek[m]: Come in and smash all the desks with the hammer? Yeah we’ll take your keycard thanks.
[17:27:55] thisgeek[m]: Security will escort you out. Some things are beyond the pale.
[17:28:05] thisgeek[m]: This guys just talking about performance issues.
[17:28:08] kenbolton[m]: The hammer.
[17:28:25] kenbolton[m]: yeah, makes sense.
[17:28:53] kenbolton[m]: of course, the self-critical worker may always believe they should be demoted.
[17:29:29] thisgeek[m]: And if someone’s already at the bottom, I don’t know how that works.
[17:30:04] kenbolton[m]: i should be demoted as a paddle-sports guide.
[17:30:25] kenbolton[m]: anybody getting out tonight to bank sq?
[18:03:40] pilgrimish: leaves
[18:03:40] pilgrimish_: leaves
[18:07:29] kenbolton[m]: ...big silence...
[18:13:55] orinxsupport[m]: yo! I'm on station
[18:14:51] kenbolton[m]: orinxsupport: does that mean you took hallucinogens?
[18:15:17] orinxsupport[m]: nah!
[18:16:08] orinxsupport[m]: I am still learning about how to use Riot
[18:16:21] orinxsupport[m]: but at the moment I'm wrangling with react